A SHOR1' BIOGRAPHY OF BABU SURENDRANATH BANERJEA· IN the history of nations, as in agriculture, there are periods of fertility proalucing quite a crop of great men as well as times of sterility unrelieved by the appearance of a single man of geQius. The forties of the nineteenth century were one such per~d of fertility. It was this decade that gave to our country, as we have seen, Mr. W. C. Bonnerjee, Mr. Monmohan Ghose and his illustrious brother. It was this decade again that witnessed the birth of one of the greatest sons of India, who has set apart his life to the ser­ vice of his country and who may truly be entitled to the most honourable title of the old Roman Orator, " the father of bis country." Born tn 1848, Surendranath was junior to Mr. W. C. Bonnerjee by four years, and like him came of a respectable Brahman family at Taltala in Calcutta. His father was the famous Dr. Durgacharan Banerjea whose medical skill has passed into a by-word in Bengal. Educated at thte Doveton College, Surendranath graduated at the Calcutta t;niversity and started for England in 1868 to try for the Indian Civil Service, in company with two other youngmen, each of whom ·, an honoured name in our country and one of whom has specially shed upon it a lustre for scholarship and patriotism. While in England Surendranath had the O{:)portunity of studying under men like Prof. Goldstucker anr ") 2 service. On his return to India, Surendranath served for two years as an Assistant-Ma~&istrate at Sylhet, but he soon , had to resign the Service on account of some slight charges , brought against him by Government. There at once arose a storm of indignation all over the country and meetings ;' were held and articles were written in support of Surendra- : nath and accusing Government of gross injustice. But all • was of no avail. Surendranath had to ~go. But out of evil cometh good and Surendranath lost to the Civil Service became Surendra won for and dedicated to the Service of his Country. _. • Ever since that time Surendranath has devoted himself heart and soul to his country's cause. For a short time he worked as a Professor of English Literature in the Metro­ politan Institution of the ever-memorable Pandit Iswar Chandra Vidyasagar. In 1882 Surendranath started a school of his own in Calcutta, which gradually grew into the Ripon College-one of the best conducted :private Colleges in the metropolis, and in 1878 he undertook the Editorship of the Bengalee. In its columns in r883, he attacked Mr. Justice Norris for having wounded the feelings of the Hindus, by ordering, in a certain case, the family idol to be brought into open court It was followed by an arrest for contempt of court and although an apology was offered, he was sen- tenced to be put into civil jail for. two months. He had a:ready established his renown for matchless oratory and the outburst of feeling which took place throughout the country on his imprisonment has never been witnessed. The whole country went mad over it and the incident only brought Surendranath and his country into closer relationship than ever. AmoPg the leaders of the Indian :\'"a tiona! Congress Surendranath stands foremost and it is to his personality that the movement owes its share of success. He twice adorned the chair vf its Pre:;ident 'l:d on both of these occasions his ~erances were u.·i•1ne. In the Legislative Council and I i.... ( 3 ) on the ~Iunicipal Board, the talents and energy of Suren­ dranath were all employed in .the service of his country. During the Calcutta Municipal Bill agitation he worked with the ardour and zeal of a youngman and to-day as we pass along the current of Swades!tism, we feel everywhere the influence of the same personality all through its course. Old as he is, he is still as active as any youngman and • the fire of enthusiasm i\11d robust optimism with which he is endowed, carry everything before him. · The tenacity of purpose which ch;:racterises him made a distinguished journa­ list once change Iils name into "Surrender not," and the marvellous powers of well-reasoned oratory, with which nature has endowed him, has caused him to be compared with Cicero and Demosthenes. May he live long to work for the cause of his country to which he has devoted his life and to whose service he has dedicated his alL-Bengal Celebrities. CONTENTS . • ELECTION RuLES. AT THE KRISHNAGAR CoNFERE~CE SIR COMER PETHERAM MEETING AT THE MUNICIPAL MEETING IN CONNEXION WITH H. H. THE PAGE. I 7 LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR'S SPEECH AT ENTALLY 12 .. FAMINE QUESTION AT T•E NATIONAL CoNGREss, 1896 24. REPLY TO MR. JACOB'S STATEMENT 35 AMRAOTI CoNGREss, 1897 ... 57 -~ ON THF; SEDITION BILL AT THE ToWN HALL, CALCUTTA 72 ON THE CALCUTTA MUNICIPAL BILL 81 DAccA CoNFERENCE.-ON PLAGUE MEASURES 125 MADRA(CoNGRESS, 1898. WELCOME TO LORD CuRZON 136 CoNsTITUTioN AND WoRKING OF THE CoNGREss 148 LucKNOW CoNGREss, 1899. CALCUTTA MUNICIPAL AcT 154 APPOINTMENT OF AN ENGLISH AGENCY ... 170 PRESENTATION OF AN ADDRESS TO MR. R. C. DUTT IiJ OPENING CEREMONY OF THE BRADLAUGH HALL AL J~AHORE... 177 LAHORE CONGRESS, 1900. EMPLOYMENT OF INDIANS IN MINOR CIVIL SERVICES... x8o CoNGREss AND I.oRD CuRZON. THANKS To H. E. THE VICEROY 190 DEATH OF THE QUEEN. DEMONSTRATION BY THE PEOPLE, 204 CALCUTTA CONGRESS, 1901. WIDER EMPLOYMENT OF NATIVES OF INDIA 207 AHMEDABAD CoNGRESS, ADDRESS BY THE PRESIDENT 224 ON SociAL REFORM, 1902 316 ANSWER TO THE STUDENTS' ADDRESS 319 To THE STUDENTS OF BERHAMPUJt 324 MADRAS CONGRESS, 1903 330 --ON THE UNIVERSITIES BILL 332 BENGAL PROVINCIAL CoNFERENCE, JulJ' 1904 345 ToWN HALL MEETING. IN CONNEXION WITH THE SCIENTIFIC AND INDUSTRIAL EDUCATION IN BENGAL RAMMOHAN ROY ANNIVERSARY 357 357 ' II CO~TENTS. Bo\rBAY Co~GREss, 1904. INDIANS AND THE PUBLIC SERVICE. 366 .M ... HARSHl DAVENDRANATH TAGORE .:\fE~IORIAL MEETING.... 379 THE STUDI;:NTS' UNION 384 PARTITION OF BENGAL :-PROTtsT MEETING AT BHOWANIPUR 386 SwADESHl MovEMENT. MEETING AT CoLUTOLA 389 --MEETING AT KUMARTULI 392 CoNGREss AT BENARES, 1905 393 --THE PARTITION OF BENGAL 396 PRIZE-DISTRIBUTION MEETING.. 406 INAUGURAL ADDRESS TO ENTRANCE CANrl'IDATES 41 I IN MEMORY OF BABU JooENDRA CHANDRA BosE 416 SWADESHISM, DEc. 1906 CALCUTTA ...;oNGRESS, 1906 CALCUTTA MUNICIPAL BILL, PART I, " " , PART II, .. 419 430 442 447 • BABU SURE~DRANATH BANERJEA'S SPEECH 'oN THE ELECTION RULES AT· THE KRISHN AGUR CONFERENCE. Mr. President and G~ntlemen, BEFORE I proceed to deal with the Resolution which has been entruste~to me, I desire to refer to some observations which have been made by two of the preceeding speakers, in regard to the place which was assigned in the list of our business to the Resolution dealing with the despatch ofthe Indian contingent to Egypt. They complain that being an imperial question and this being a Provincial Conference, the first place should not have been .accorded to this Resolution. I desire to point out that the order of the Resolutions is n~ index on the part of_ the Conference of the comparative importance of the differPnt Resolutions in our programme. The order is merely a matter of arrangement, determined with reference to convenience in the. despatch of our business ;· and no more striking evidence in support of what I say can we have than this-that the Resolution which I am about to move though the last in the series is not inferior in point of importance to any of the Resolutions which have been laid before the C!.3nference. With this explanation which I trust will satisfy my friends who have raised the question, I pass on to the consideration of the Resolution which I have the honor to move. The terms of the Resolution are these: (Here reads the Resolution.) You are aware that one of the reforms upon which the Congress haq set its heart, which it insisted in season and out of season, was this reform of the Councils. \Vhen the Congress met for the first time in 188 5 it put this question in the forefront and formulatecl the lines Opon which, in its opinion, the reform should be carried out. It repeat~ tht: 2 demand at every meeting of the Congress and· continued the agitation both here and in ~ngland, until its efforts were crowned with success, and the Councils were reformed and · enlarged by the Indian Councils Act of 1892. That indeed was a halting measure of refonn which did not satisfy the country. \Ve accepted it only as the partial instalment of a great concession which wil-l. be made to us in the fullness of time. The amending statute did not ~ecognize the elective principle. Discretion in this respect was given to the Government of India, and the discussion \,.bich preceded the enactment of the statute left no doubt as to how that discre­ tion was to be used. Both Lord Salisbury and Mr. Gladstone fTom their places in Parliament declared that what was intended by the Act was to secure a living representation of the Indian peoples. How far that object has been attained will appear from one or two facts which with your permission I will Jay before the Conference. You have in Bengal a popula­ tion of seventy millions. This vast population is represented by six elected members, or if you take the whole Council, consisting of elected and non-elected members, by 20 mem­ bers. \Vhy, the pettiest . Municipality in the Province has a more adequate representation than that. The representation in our municipalities varies from h\·enty to thirty members of whom fuHy two-thirds are elected. Defective as the Act is, the manner of its working in Bengal has rendered it still more unsatisfactory. That it should be so need not excite our surprise, having regard to the genesis of the rules under which the Act is worked. These rules were issued by the Government of Sir Charles Elliott which is saying. a great deal. They were settled at a Conference of officials held at Belvedere, to which not a single non-official was invited. As for the rules themselves • they are open to the obvious objection that under a system of rotation, whole divisions are left unrepresented in the Council. You know what the system of rotation is. In I 893, wherf' the first elections were held, the Presidency, the ( 3 . ) Rajshahi, the Patna and the Chittagong Divisions took part in the elections. All !he ot!ihers, including such important Divisions, as the Dacca and the Burdwan Divisions, were left out. In the elections of 1895, the Divisions which had taken part in the elections of I 893 were left out-the Divisions which had been left out in I 893, took part in the elections. Thus at each election, four divisions take part, the o,thers remain unrepresentecP. Ours is thus a partial representation. It need not be so. In Madras and the North-\Vestern Provinces a diffqent system prevails. The municipalities and the District Boards are grouped into four divisions. Thus in Madras, we have the municipalities of the northern and those of the southern division, each group retuniing a member to the Legislative Council at each election. The District Boards are similarly classified into two 'divisions. All the District Boards and Municipalities thus take part at each election. None are excluded. All are represented. The representation is not, like ours, partial and incomplete. 1 Not the smallest inconvenience has ever arisen from this arrange­ ment. There never has been any complaint of any kind. There never has been ~ tie, while thorc ugh representaticn has been secured so far as practicable under the existing rules. The only possible objection to the adoption of the system which prevails in M:tdras and North-Western Provinces i which my friend Babu Ambika Charan Mazumdar reminds me is also the system followed in Bombay) is, what was so tem­ perately put forward by the Statesman newspaper, that it ,offers less scope for the play of local interest. This however is an inconvenience which the Governments of Madras and of the North- \Vestern Provinces have not felt. And if it is ever felt, it can be easily removed. All that the Government has got to do is to appoint a person possessed of local know­ ledge for any Bill which may require such knowledge. The Government has almost a free hand in the matter of appointing members of Council. Out of twenty members of the Bengal Council, only six are el ~cted, fourteen are nominated., The 4 Government therefore can have no practical difficulty in providing for local knowledge when the consideration in Council of any proposed measure of law may need it. The Government is now re-considering the rules for the election of members to the local Legislative Council, not indeed with a view to satisfy the demands of public opinion, but to remove a serious administrative difficulty. The District Board elections for the Dac& Division and the Bhagulpur Division threatened to end in a fiasco. There was a tie in connection with both the elecppns. The tie in regard to the election by the DistriCt Boards of the Dacca Division was got over by the public-spirited withdrawal of Raja Surja Kanta Acharyya Chowdhury from the field which had the effect of securing the return of our distinguished President to the Council. [Babu Matilal Ghose :-"You should have also mentioned Babu Ambika Charan Mozumcler's firmness in the matter." The speaker ;-1 did not mention Babu Ambika Charn Mozumdar's name for personal reasons."] At Bhagulpur however the situa­ tion became critical. The rival candidates stuck fast to their guns. Neither of them would withdraw. The Government came to the rescue. It cut the Gordi"an knot by appointing the Maharaja of Gidhour to represent the Bhagul­ pore Division in the Council, although he did not even stand as a candidate for election. That was a grave scandal. It was felt as such by the country. How to prevent the recur­ rence of a scandal like this, by avoiding the. possibility of a tie in future, is the question which is now being considered by the Government. The Government proposes to meet the difficulty by adding to the number of votes possessed by the District Boards and by making the number of votes uneven. Your proposal is precisely the same, with this difference that I claim for it that it is natural, while the systet:n proposed by the Government is artificial. You add to the number. of votes by adding to the number of your constituencies. The Govecmment proposes to. add to .the f\lJ!llber of votes py giving plurality uf upon their income. 5 ) \·otcs to tltc District Buards, based We say, •et all the District Boards be divided into two electoral groups of an uneven number, each District Board having one vote as now. Our system is simple and is free from the complications which attends the Government system. It moves ajong the line of least re­ sistance. \Vhat is still more important. it effectually prevents the possibilPty of ·a tie in connection with the District Board elections. The Government prQposes two scales. I am afr~~d having regard to the lateness of the hour, I am precluded from entering into details. Vpdcr the first scale proposed by the Government, the chances of a tie are not avoided. Under the second scale, a slight alteration in the income of any District Board may upset the calculations of the Government and a tie may be inevitable. But the plan you recom·mend will operate with mathematical precision, and a tie can never occu.r. So much with regard to the administrative difficulty. But I venture to recommend your proposal for the favourable consideration of Government upon higher . grounds of statesmanship. Every constituency in and connected with Calcutta takes part in each election. Every constituency outside the Mahratta ditch is disfranchised for a season. The Calcutta University, the Calcutta Corporation, the Calcutta Trades Association, the Calcutta Chamber of Commerce all return a member to the local Council at each election. But the great divisions, outside the Presidency town, such as the Presidency Division, the Dacca Division and others, containing large populations and representing vast interests can return a number only periodically. ·This is an invidious destinction which involves a slur upon the moffusil, a(!ainst which this Conference desires to record its respectful but firm protest. Our proposal, if accepted, does away with this distinction. The next part of your Resolution has reference to a mdtter of great importance, in regard to which I appr('Jlend ( 6 ) there will be little or no difference of opinion. \\'e re­ commend that there should • be as may voting delegates as there are votes. Take the case of the Howrah Municipality. It has eight votes. We say that instead of one delegate being elected, having eight votes, eight delegates should be elected, each having only one vote and no more. The advantages of such a system are obvious. It would provide a safeguard against cflquism, and reduce to a minimum the evils of canvassing ; for it is a more difficult matter to go about and solicit the votes .{)fa large than of a small constituency. The next part of your Resolution says that zemindars and the Mahomedan community should be invested with the right of electing their own member. At present the Government appoints the members for these comll!unities. The Maharaja of Durbhanga represents the the zemindars in the Bengal Council, and there could be no worthier representative of land-holders of Bengal. But the Maharaja would have felt his position stronger if he was the elected of the people rather than the nominee of Government. The Mahomedan community would also like to appoint their own member. The Government would do well to relieve itself of this responsibility. As for allowing the Zemindars to elect their own member why this was done in 1884. The Government of Lord Ripon invited the Zeminder Associations to send a member of their own to the Supreme Legislative Council on the occasion of the discussion of the Rent Bill. Kristo Dass Pal was returned by the zemindars as their member, and after his lamented death, the honor was conferred upun Raja Piyari Mohan Mookerjee. \Ve ask the Government in 1896 to repeat an experiment, which it had tried in 1884. It is an emin<:ntly conservative proposal. As for the Mohomedan community, they have got their recognized .\ssociations ; and these Associations, subject to such rules as the Governm~nt may frame, may be asked to nominate a member to represent the community. I do not see what 7 possible difficulty there could be to the acceptance of this proposal. It would be a graceful concession which would not in any way embarrass the Government, but would be received with gratitude by those concerned. In this matter, there could be no antagonism of interest between the Government and the community. We are all interested in seeirg that the Parliamentary statute is carried out, and that the purposes of a wise and beneficent legislation are not-frustrated. Sir Alexanaer Mackenzie has been describet-1 to be a beneficent conservative. He is a conservative of the type of Burke, with the instincts of a genuine statesman. He must recognize the fact that change is necessary for the purposes of conservation, and the change in the rules which we recommend would give fuller effect to a Parliamentary enactment, would broaden • the basis of representation in this country, strengthen his own Council, help forward the purposes of good Government, and entitle him to the lasting gratitude of the people. Therefore we feel the less hesitation in recommending the Resolution which I have the honour to move, to the acceptance of the Government and the community. BABU SURENDRANATH BANERJEA'S SPEECH AT THE SIR COMER PETHERAM MEETING. Sir,- I have great pleasure in supporting this Resolution. Speaking for myself, and speaking only for myself, I should have preferred a public meeting of the general community to a public meeting of friends and admirers. Pardon me if I Yenture to say that a public meeting of friends and admirers involves a contradictiom in terms. However that may be, such is the unanimity of public sentiment on the subject-the general sense of admiration felt for the many excellent qualities of head and heart which distin!J,uish Sir Comer Patheram -the universal regret at his approaching departure, such in short is the• volume and intensity of the public sentiment which underlies this movement, that I have no hesitation in saying that a public meeting, and a public meeting alone would do justice-adequate justice-to the requirements of the situation .. But·· at the same time, Sir, J recognize the great ·truth that the law of compromise- o compromise not divorced from morality, but inseparably associated with· it-is the essence of public business. In this unhappy world we cannot get everything •that we want, and we have to adapt ourselves to the exigencies of our situation. If under the circumstances a public meeting was impossible we had to be satisfied with the next best thing, viz, a meeting of friends and admirers. But the friends are so numerous, so influential, so representive in their character, occupying such commanding positions in society that t am glad to be able to say that this meeting of friends has assumed· the proportions and the magnitude of a great public demonstration. I rejoice to be able to bear my part and share in it for a reason which I am sure will appeal to the sympathies of all who are listening to me and of that wider public beyond the sound of my voice. Here are gathered together the leaders of all sections of our community, animated by a common sentiment of respect and admiration for a distinguished officer of the Goverment who is about to lay down the responsibilities of his high posi­ tion. A demonstration like this has a deeper significance than the immediate object which has brought it about. It serves to unite together, by the ties of a common citizenship in the performance of common civic duties, the representatives of different sections of our somewhat heterogenous community, upon whose sympathy and good-will towards each other depend the best interests of the country. No matter what may be our religious differences, no matter what may be the character and complexion of our peculiar soeial usages, no matter whether we are Hindus, Mahomedans ( 9 ) or Christians, a demonstration like this brings home to our minds the truth that we are the subjects of the same sovereign, living under the same Government and the same political institutions, attached by the ties of a common duty and allegiant:e to that throne, whose permanence and stability in this country is the guarantee of civilized rule for two hundred millio~s of human beings. It is because a meeting like this is calculated to foster good feelings between our leading men that I \velcome it and am glad to be here. I carP only express the hope that these feelings of amity and concord may grow and deepen for the sake of our mutual interests and the benefit of our common empire. There is yet another consideration why I rejoice to be able to bear the testimony of my grati~ude · to the retiring Chief Justice. I am a journalist, and belong to a class of the community who are supposed to have developed an extraordinary aptitude for finding· fault, especially with the high officers of Government, No doubt as journalists, it is our duty to criticize and to remonstrate, and sometimes even to find fault : for in the felicitous language of Sir \Villiam Hunter the native Press constitute Her Majesty's Opposition in India. But the attitude of the Indian Press in regard to this demonstration is significant. It is an attitude of sympathy. It affords evidence that we can criticize with discrimination, that we can praise where praise is due, and that we· are always prepared to renqer unto C;:esar the things that are C;:esar's, and unto God the things that are God's. And who ~ver better deserved prai~e than the retiring Chief Justice? Amid the conflict of rival interests, amid the fierce war of hostile passions which are calculated to disturb the serene course of justice, Sir Comer Petheram maintained the balance evenly, and so comported himself in his high position as to have won in an unstintcd measure the gratitude of a united community. Long and distinguished is the muster-roll of these illustrious men who from time to time have held the high of!i~e of •chief 2 10) Justice of Bengal. There have been abler men, more distinguished lawyers, more \rigorous administrators than Sir Comer Petheram. But point out to me any one among the most distinguished of his predecessors who within living memory has elicited a tithe of that public respect and gratitude which follows Sir Comer Petheram in his retirement. \Vhat is the secret? It is easily told. 0 It is admirably told in that eloquent address in which I see the Roman hand of my friend Mr. Apcar. It is a secret which any one who runs may read. Sir Comer Petheram maintained the high traditions of the English Bench-he exhibited in the performance of his duties that independence of character which is the crowning attribute of English Judges, tempered by a large hearted sympathy and kindliness of feeling which half reconciled the severity of the la\\' to those who suffered most from it. The High Court is the palladium of our rights-the bulwark of p.::>pular privileges-the sanctuary of the weak and the oppressed. Persecuted and harassed by an unscrupulous Police, convicted by Magistrates who at each stage are exposed to check and interference at the hands of executive authority, it is to the High Court that our people in their distress turn for safety, for protection and for justice ; and they do not appeal to the High Court in vain. I have not the smallest hesitation in saying·-I shall not be guilty of any exaggeration if I say it -that it is the one institution in the land which more than any other draws to itself the largest measure of public confedence and respect. To have been the Chief Justice of such a court is no mean honour. To have been the Chief Justice of such a court and to have discharged the duties of Chief Justice with the full approbation of a united community is a distinction of which any servant of the Crown might well be proud. It is ·a distinction \vhich belongs to Sir Comer Petheram. The pDsition of Chief Justice of the High Court of Bengal is onecof unique dignity and responsibility. Let it be said ( IT ) to the lasting credit of Sir Comer Petheram that he performed his duties with·· honor. to hin1self and with satisfaction to the public. He maintained the high Court in the undiminished possession of its ancient traditions and confirmed it in the puhlic regard. This is a service of no mean importance. One who does it is entitled to be called a public benefactor. Sir Comer Patheram may have done no more than what . . was his duty, but we have been benefitted, and \Ve are ·grateful to him for it. They say-it is a calumny-a thrice­ exploded calumn?-that the word gratitude does not occur in the Indian dialects --although these dialects derive their vocabulary from the inexhaustible resources of one of the most copious languages which have ever formed the speech of man, the mother of all languages, the language of the gods in the words of our Aryan ancestors. However that may be whether we have the word or not. the sentiment is there, deep-seated in our heart of hearts, and in obedience to that overwhelming impulse, we are here to render to ' the retiring Chief Justice the homage of our hearts. We wish him god-speed. We wish him health and happiness and prosperity and many years of useful life in his retirement. Above all, we rely upon him for help in that struggle in which we are engaged to rid the judicial system of this country of all executive control and interference. The proposal is admitted to be a just one. It has been described as a counsel of perfection. Lord George Hamilton, speaking from his place in the House of Commons, in connection with the recent debate upon the Indian budget, observed that the Government of India were taking steps in that direction. \Vhat those steps are we have yet to know. Sir Richard Garth, late Chief Justice, is nobly working in the same field. We appeal to Sir Comer Petheram to associate himself with Sir Richard Garth in this matter, to remember us, as we shall remember him with gratitude, to feel an interest in the well-being of that country with which he bas so long and so intimately been associated, and a.bove 12 all to help forward the progress of that reform which by placing the judicial system of-the country upo!1 a sound and statisfactory basis will not only add to the ·happiness of the people, but will also contribute to the stability of British rule ; for the truth cannot be too often repeated or too emphatically proclaimed, that this vast, this stupendous, this majestic fabric of Empire depends for its permanence not so much upon its inexhaustible t~ilitary resources, as upon the love, the gratitude, the willing allegiance of its· multitudinous population, united to the ~ritish connection by the deep and profound conviction that it is a connection sanctified by Divine Providence and consecrated by the eternal principles ofuniversal justice. AT THE MC'~ICIPAL MEETI~G I~ CO~NEC­ TION WITH H. H. THE LIEUTENANT­ GOVERNOR'S SPEECH AT E~TALLY. Sir,-I have the honour to move the first Resolution. The terms of the Resolution are as follows :-(Here reads the Resolution.) In moving this Resolution I desire to guard myself against a misconception which the circumstances of the case may give rise to. The wisdom of holding this meeting has been doubted in some quarters,, and our attitude ~as been misconstrued. I desire to say on my own behalf and I may add on behalf of those who have signed the requisi­ tion, that our attitude is not one of defiance but of defence­ it is an attitude of explanation and of vindication. We are all here animated by a common sentiment of dutiful allegiance to the honoured Head of the Government of these Provinces -by the belief-in my case I will add, the assured conviction that when we have stated our case as it ought to be stated, and have laid before His Honour the facts and arguments as they ought to be laid, and when upon the basis of those facts we .-:ppeal to him for justice and fair play, thep. we are sure I 3 ) His Honour with an Englishman's instinct will accord to us a sympathetic response. In that"' hope and confidence we have convened . this meeting. In that .._hope ·and confidence we desire to approach His Honor with' the appeal that His Honour will be pleased to reconsider his judgment, at least so much of it as inv)\ves a censure of the Municipality. Our case is so strong-it is so overwhelmingly convincing- , . that we have only to state it to carry horne conviction to every unprejudiced mind and to dissipate the misconceptions which have gathered round His Hm1or's speech. We fully recognize our position in relation to the Government. It is a position of subordination strictly safe-guarded under limitatiot1s imposed by the law. In one sense we are an arm of the administration. · An important bl·anch of public affairs has been entrusted to our care. But at the same time we cannot forget that we are also the representatives of the people. We are here, because our constituents have sent us here. They can make and unmake us. Their confidence is ·to us the breath of our nostrils. Their approbation, next to :the 1 approbation of our own consciences, is the highest reward we can aspire to. But when our administration has been arraigned in the way it has been arraigned by the Head of the Local Government, then we incur the imminent risk of losing the confidence of our constituents unless we are able to vindicate our administration and justify it in their eyes. Duty to them and ourselves-duty .to the public and the Government . alike-renders it necessary that we should enter upon a formal and public defence of our administration. Such, however, is our faith in the justice of our 'Case that we feel that we may rely with absolute confidence! upon the approving judgment of public opinion. The Resolution says that we have been condemned by His Honor-condemned unheard -condemned under circumstances which make the condemnation unmerited and inappropriate to the occasion. Have we been condemned or not? I heard Mr. Farr say that he was not aware that we had been condemned b" the ( 14 Lieutenant-Governor. I am sorry that Mr. Farr and his friends have left the meeting• before they had heard all that we had to say. If we have not been condemned, such a meeting as this would be utterly out of place, and I should be offering an insult, a deliberate affront to your understanding, were I to ask you to accept the Resolution which I have the honor to move. Sir, as I listened to the speech of His Honor 0 when it \vas delivered, as I read it in the newspapers in print, it seemed to me, as it must have seemed to all of you, that it involved a scathing unqualified condemnation of the Com­ missioners. Since then however an explanation has been offered. The Hon'ble Mr. Risley, writing on behalf of His Honor the Lieutenant-Governor in a communication addressed to the Medical Board,has explained that His Honor has a per­ fectly open mind on the question of responsibily and that it is a mistake to suppose that he intended that the executive were blameless in the matter of the sanitary shortcomings ofCalcutta, and that the Commissioners alone were to blame. For my part, I am not prepared to accept the inference which underlies these remarks. I am not prepared and you are not prepared to accept the distinction which is sought to be made here between the Commissioners and their Executive. The Commissioners and the Executive form integral parts, inseparable elements of the Corporation. To condemn the Executive is to condemn the Commissioners. To condemn the Executive is to say that the Commissioners have been remiss in their supervision of their work. Nay more, we are not prepared to permit an extraneous authority-however exalted that authority might be-to interpose between ourselves and our employees and apportion the measure of responsibility between us. Nothing could be more demoralizing to the Executive, more utterly subversive of official discipline. It has never been a part of the traditions of the Corporation to regard the executive as separate from the Commissioners in the matter of responsi­ bility. In the dark days of the Corporation when a Commis­ sion.was appointed, the Executive under the guidance of ( 15 Sir Henry Harrison cordially co-operated with the Commis­ sioners in defending the men:tced interests of Corporation. I hope we are not going to depart from those traditions. I hope those traditions have not become matters of ancient history. I hope, Sir; you as the Head of the Executive will by your vote to-day once again affirm the principle that your honour or dishonour means our honour or dishonour. Thus, then, notwittstanding the explanation which has been offered, we are driven to the conclusion that we ha,·e been condemned. The Resolution says that the condemn~tion passed upon the Commissioners was unmerited and inappro­ priate to the occasion and that it was passed without affording them the opportunity of explanation or defence. The Lieutenant-Governor was the guest of the. Commissioners. The Commissioners were his hosts. He was their honoured guest. For the guest to turn round upon his hosts and to censure them is a proceeding which will not recommend itself to the approval of right-thinking men. Then again what was the occasion which had brought the Lieutenant­ Governor to Entally ? He had come to open the new Drainage works-to preside at a function which associated with the inauguration of the most important sanitary work of the generation. It will occur to most people that such an occasion was singularly inopportune for censuring the Commissioners for their alleged neglect of the sanitation of Calcutta. The function itself wa~ the most striking refutation of the charge. Even the Pioneer newspaper, the accredited organ of the official hierarchy, condemned the speech as being unsuitable to the occasion on which it was delivered. But we further complain that we have been condemned unheard. The Lieutenant-Governor based his remarks upon the Report of the Sanitary Inspectors ; but the Report was never sent to the Commisi!ioriers for explanation. It is an eternal principle of ju.21ice that no man shall be condemned unheard. Is the .eorporation alone to be singled out for exceptional :treatment ? The vcriest 26000 § JAN lS S ( 16 murderer caught red-handed in the act, reeking with the blood of his innocent victim, rs allowed, such is the humanity of the law, the opportunity of explanation and defence. But this great Corporation, the greatest representative body in India, with a record which would bear fa,·ourable comparison with the record of any similar body in any other part of the world, is denied this privilege. And by whom ? The Head 0 of the Local Government. And who is the Head of the Local Government ? The distinguished administrator who was late Secretary to Lord Ripon'~ Government-a Government that placed the system of Local Self-Government in India upon a firm and durable basis and covered itself with ever-lasting honour and glory. I am constrained to say-I say it with all reluctance-but I must say it-in the words of the greatest of English poets that vve are fallen upon evil times and upon evil tongues, and by darkness and danger compassed round. But, Sir, \Ve also complain that His Honour's speech, was based upon a grave misapprehension of the facts of the case. The third Resolution in charge of my friend deals with the mistakes of fact bearing upon the conservancy of the town. I will not trespass into my friend's province. But there are mistakes of fact not covered by the tl).ird Resolution, and to some of these I desire to call your attention. We have been set down as a set of talkers wasting our time in talk. The charge of loquacity has been laid to our doors. With reference to this charge, I will say this that speech is governing the politics of the civilized world .. I hope and trust that within a measurable distance of time it will govern the politics of the Indian Continent. Govern­ ment by speech is the order of the day. ~ot even the omnipo­ tence of autocracy will avail to arrest or postpone the slow, the steady, the triumphant development of these forces, work­ ing noiselessly in the bosom of society, which are hastening forward the accomplishment of this great end. However that may be, is it true that we make speeches for the sake of speoch-making--that we talk more than we should ? Is I7 ) it the case that we are "an armoury of talk," to use the· words of a late distinguished Secretary to the Government of . . . Bengal ? Those who are most familiar with the working of the Corporation are 'the best judges in this matter. In this case the saying is' not true that· the spectators see more of the· game than the 'actual players. The spectators must see less for they have to rely upon hearsay evidence. In· modern Indian 1!ist;)ry, there is no name more honour­ ed than that of Krista Das Pal, there never was a mem­ ber of this body ,\·ho rendered greater services to. the Corpof·ation and the to\vn, or whose uttera'nces are entitled to more weight. Speaking in I 88 I of the elected 'municipality, then in its early years, he observed :- ' An exal}1ination of the Municipal debates in the past and present will, we doubt not, satisfy the most fastidious person that there is less talk now than before. It is superfluous for us to say that public questions cannot be decided without talk, long or small, and that the character of the talk in public bodies is to a great extent regulated by the information possessed and the earnestness of conv_ictions entertained by different speakers. Life itself is a long talk. If the world consisted only of mutes, then ~ociety would hardly exist. In all the walking moments of life man spends much of his time in talk, whether for business, instruction or pleasure. Public life in the civilized worl~ means a war of words.' But Kristo Das Pal was himself a greater talker. The most accomplised debater of his time, he might be presumed to be partial to speech-making. Further he laboured under serious disability that· he was not an official, and to some minds, pre.sent company . of course always excepted, official testimony has the force and validity of gospel truth. There­ fore let me pass from· un-official to official testimony, and the testimony, which I am ab:mt to quote will be that of perhaps the most distinguished civilian who has ever held 18 the office of Chairman. Thus spoke Sir Henry Harrison in 1887 :- When large questions of principle came up for final discussion in general meeting, it could not but be expected that the men of leisure, who naturally took an interest in the work which they had helped to complete, would also naturally be prepared to discuss at length the questions which were under consideration ; but the me11 of business would not like to sit for two or three hours to discuss them. It was unreasonable to suppose that this could be otherwise, and when European gentleman did take all" interest in such matters, they themselves fell into the habit of making as long speeches as native gentlemen. Some of the longest speeches he had ever listened to were made by European gentlemen in debates in which they were taking a great interest. But 18g6 is not 1887, and that may make a difference. Let me therefore come to more recent times and quote a more modern authority. Let me quote the words of the late lamented Mr. Lee whose early death was such a heavy loss to the Corporation and the town :- Less frequently now than of old, because the outside public is better acquainted with the facts, but still occasionally, we hear insinuations that much time is wasted in this hall by long speeches from the Municipal Commissioners. No charge. could be further from the mark. In all my experience -and that has covered full three years-1 have seldom listened to a speech that has not been useful and to the point. I can hardly recall a single instance in which I have made reflection that the speaker was throwing no new light on his subject, and was simply speaking to make a speech. The facts, indeed, are conclusive. In the course ofthe year you hold some thirty General meetings. All the proceedings of every committee meeting, of which some 250 are held in the course of the year, come before you in this hall for review. A single Committee will frequently 19 ) deal with 20 or more separate matters, and you have on the average to review proceedings of such Committees at each single meeting in this hall, so that you dispose of sometimes 120, seldom less than forty items of business at a sitting. How long do you take over it ? As a. rule between one and two hours ! Who could say with fairness that that is excessive ? How many similar deliberative bodies in the world are there that • would dispose of the work in less time? The general rule that we endeavour to observe is not to speak without special knowledge and clear opinion, and then to express tmr thoughts in language as brief as we can make it. These words possess a pathetic interest for us ; for they were the last words addressed by Mr. Lee to this Corporation -they form part of his valedictory address delivered on the 23rd March 1893. From opinions let us pass on to the consideration of the facts of the case ; and in this connection, I desire to congratulate my" friend, Babu Nolin Behary Sircar, upon the admirable statement which he has drawn up, traversing the various points raised in His Honor's speech. We find from the table in Babu Nolin Behary Sircar's statement that in 1894-95 there were 239 items of business brought up before the Commissioners. Out of them 191 items were disposed of without discussion. There were 38 items in which short speeches were made, and there were only 10 items which gave rise to long debates. In 1895-96, there were 328. items of business .which were brought before- the Commissioners, and so many as 249 items of· business disposed of without any discussion. Further we find that in 1894-95 the attendance of Commissioners at a meeting was forty on an average, of whom only six spoke, 34 giving "silent, sensible votes." In 1895-96, the average attendance of Commissioners at each meeting was 41, of whom only 7 spoke on an average, 34 giving "silent, sensible votes.'' This charge has again and again been brought and as • 20 often refuted. Falsehood dies hard. It is a hydra-headed monster, which rears its he:.td as often as you slay it. You have slain the monster this time. You may not be too sure that you will not have to· repeat the operation. . Then S~r our constitution has been assailed. For our constitution. we are not responsible. We do the bes~ with it. It has been observed by Sir Alexander Mackenzie that the municipal constitution of Calcutta is derived en bloc from the most 0 . advanced models in England, and that it has been determined without reference to the totally different circumstances of an Oriental· city and a mixed community.. The statement involves a serious misapprehension of facts. Point out to me the Town-Council or Municipality in England the members of which are partly elected and partly nominated. Point out to me the Town-Council or Municipality in England the Mayor of which is nominated by the Government.- Point out to me the Town Council or Municipality in England which is subjected to the same measure of control to which we are subjected at the hands of the Executive Government. Then again it is not the case that the varied and diversified interests of an orientaJ city and of a mixed community were not sufficiently borne in mind in framing the constitution. Read the debates which took place in Council in r 876 when the constitution was framed, and again in f888 \Vhen it came on for review (I will not tire your patience by quoting extracts) and you will find that the illustrious men who framed the constitution and these who remodelled it, men like Sir Stuart Hogg and Sir Henry Harrison, paid special attention to the representation of the varied interests of our community, and took the necessary precautions to secure that end. But after all is our constitution so bad? It has been pronounced to be a success by distinguished men of the eminence of the late Mr. Colman Macaulay and others. A tree is judged by its fruits, Look at the achievements of the elected Municipality. The solvency of the Municipality secured upon a, finn and durable ba~is, the increased and increasing credit of the ' ( 21 ) Corporation tintil that cre:iit is as good as that of the Govern­ ment of India, the magnificent works of sanitation which have changed the face Calcutta un\il it has become a sanitarium for all · B'!ngal-these are the enduring- memorials of the wisdom, the judgment, the sagacity and public spirit of the much-maligned elected Commissioners.: of Calcutta. I shoultl like t::J know wh:1t dep:trtment unde.r·the. dire~t control of the Government could show such satisfactory results. You com- • plain of the over-crowding of Calcutta. To what is it due, may I ask ? Peopl~ from the moffusil flock to Calcutta as to a sanitarium from their malaria-stricken homes. Within the last twenty: years the price of land in Calcutta has been trebled. Has the vol.ume of your trade increased threefold ? ~ o. What then is the explanation ? The demand for land has steadily increased owing to the increasing h~althiness of Calcutta. Why the elected commissioners during the time they have been in offi::e have spent nearly two crores and fifty lakhs of rupees upon works of permanent utility ; the J ustic~s spent only a crore and eighty laks during the time they administered the affairs of Calcutta. It is too late in the day to criticize the constitution. It has stood the stress of twenty long years. It has been pronounced to be a success by high authority. It has pro­ duced the magnificen ~ results to which I have referred. It has secure::! the financial solvency of the Corporation and has .. improved its credit. Time destroys all shams and impositions. If ours was a bastard constitution un­ suited to the exigencies of the situation, it would have long ago gone the way of all things. I am obliged to say that never was there a grosser misconception than what pervades this part of the speech of His Honor Lieutenant­ Governor. Then, sir, it has been obs€rved that our executive is weak and can be easily upset. The sugg-estion is that we interfere unnecessarily with the executive. Sir, I appeal to you as the Head of the executive-! would like to appeal to • ( 22 ) Mr. Hughes as the head of the spending department of the Corporation-whether you have found any difficulty in getting on with the Commissioners-! should like to know whether any Chairman, any Health Officer, save and except Dr. Simpson, has ever experienced any difficulty in this respect. If Dr. Simpson had all his own way, I very much fear C;J.lcutta would have been declared a plague-stricken city quarantine regulations would have been enforced 11 the trade of Calcutta ruined, and the Municipality reduced to bankruptcy. One word more, before I conclude. His Honor has been pleased to observe that as regards many of· us our individual stake in the town is small, that we represent ourselves in the first instance, and a mass of heterogenous interests in the second. We cannot very well help representing ourselves. That we represent ourselves and that we represent a mass of heterogenous interests (by which I understand the interests C'f our constituents, who are Hindus and Mahomedans) may be our misfortune, but is certainly not our fault. But I deny altogether that we have little or no stake in the town. I will venture to say that we have much greater stake than the birds of passage who come here to shake the pagoda tree and run away with our gold. We have a small stake in the town ! Why the dust of our home-steads is consecrated by the ashes of our sires. Calcutta is the home of our ancestors-it is the home of our wives, our mothers and our daughters-it is the destined home of our children and our children's children. If ever th.e plague were to break out here-may God avert such a calamity-where would the birds of passage be? We shall however continue to cling to the habitations of our ancestors with fond and devoted affection. Nothing in history, nothing in fable exceeds, the love and devotion which the Hindu feels for his homestead. It is the centre of all his joys.,.-round it gather the noblest and the tender­ est of his domestic associations. They cannot indeed be transformed into gold-what gold can measure them ! But are sentimental considerations of no weight in the concerns of ( 23 ) life-are they to count as a feather in the balance in dealing with a people who are largely governed by sentiment? I will not detain you any longer. •1 trust our vote to-day will be a unanimous vote. This Corporation recognizes no distinction of race-no difference between official and non~officials,between the Commissioners and the executive. Here we are all members of a common body, animated by a common sentiment and a comJUon desire to • maintain untarnished· the honor the reputation and the dignity of this great Corporation which it is our privilege to serve. We remember with pride that when the Corporation was assailed. by popular clamour and placed on its trial, Europeans and Indians, the Executive and the Commissioners stood shoulde,r to shoulder, firmly knitted together as one body, resolved to defend the menaced inte.r~ ests of the Corporation. Are we now going to prove false to our traditions? No mistake we are in the midst of a grave cris_is, as grave as any one which has ever occurred in the history ofthe Corporation; for only the other day-I think it was on Saturday last, -His Honor the Lieutenant-Governor observed from his place in Council that a considerable amendment of the Calcutta Municipal. Act might be expected. I do not take it in the light of a threat, but as the serious pronouncement of a deliberate opinion on the part of a responsible statesman. H~wever that may be, I will say this on my own behalf, and I will venture to add on your behalf, that so long as we are members of this Corporation, so long as we are entrusted with the municipal administration of this city, so long as the safe guarding of the constitution under which we work is in our hands, so long we shall manfully endeavour to perform our duties, undaunted by the frowns and unseduced by the smiles of power. In order that we may thus perform our duties, and in a manner that will redound to our own credit and to the benefit of the Corporation, the most perfect accord, the most cordial unanimity should subsist between us. In this as in other matters, united we stand, divided we fall. BABC SCRE~Dl·L\~ ATH H:\~ERJEA'S Sl>EECH 0~ 'fHE FAMI~E QCESTIO:N' AT THE NATIO:N'AL • COXGRESS .. I have the honor to move the I 2th resolution which runs in these terms :-( Here reads the Resolution.) I desire to accord to you my most grateful acknow­ ledgments for the cordial welcome which you have given me. I need all the sympathy and !eUpport of this great Con;:-ress to enable me to perform the mournful task which has devolved upon me~the saddest which has ever fallen to the lot of any man (cheers). · To day 've meet under the shadow of a great~I will not say-an unprecedented calamity-for unfortunately our history is full of it-but a calamity which has not overtaken us since the birth of the Congress. I do not wish it to be understood for one moment that there is any necessary connection between the Congress and the famine. But this I do mean to urge both on your behalf, and I may add, on my . own behalf, that if the Government had accepted the policy which has been formu~ated from this ·platform-which has been enunciated times without number,-a policy of justice and beneficence, tempered by economy-these famines would have become matters of ancient history, and the world would have been spared the perusal l)f thuse harrowing tales of starvation, if not of death, which constitute a a discredit to any civilised administration (Loud che:!rs). A great French authority, the father of modern Zoclogy, the illustrious Cuvier, has somewhere remarked in his works that famines are impossible in this age. So they are .in European countries ; but not in this fabled land of wealth, the gorgeous Ind ~f . the poet, possessed of the fatal gift of beauty and of wealth, the granary of the East, the garden of Asia (cheers). Here famines; are matters of every day incident~they are permanent factors in our history which the Gover'nment of the country is bound to take note of. They occut with the periodicity of the seasons, • 25 ) and when thy occur my countrymen perish by millions. The history of British India is the history of famines. Rejecting for a moment all cm~siderations of ancient history and coming down to more modern times, we find there was a famine in r866, and famine in 1873-74, a famine in 1877-78, and last but not least the famine of 1896. Unlike the famine of 1866 which was confined to Orissa, unlike the famine of I873-N which was confined to Behar, unlike the famine of 1877-78 which decimated Madras, the famine of I 89'5 is universal, all-embracing, holding in its death-grip the vast InJi:m continent, with its multitudinous population ~Loud che:!rs). It may vary in different parts of the country in the measure of its intensity, but it is felt all over the Indian continent. Perhaps it is most severely felt in the Central Prov-inces,-perhap:; in the Central Provinces the arrangements to meet it are the most defective. An English writer-a spectator-disinterested nonofficial Eng-lish­ man-to whom we owe the tribute of our gratitude (hear­ hear)-an English eye-witness, writing in the columns of the Pioneer and describing the famine of the Central Provinces has used language which fills me with unutterable' .. pain. People starving-the miserable wretches dropping on the road-side, dropping in the jungles, in their homes, in the poor­ houses,dying by hundreds, dying by thousands-these are the words of that witness. Yet Lord Elgin was able to felicitate himself upon the prosperous condition of the Central Provinces up to the gates of Jubbalpur, (cries of Shame)­ and to observe that there was only the probability of a famine occurring in a portion of that Province. I think I· speak the sense of this great Congress when I say that \Ve all here,-Congress men or no Congress men-we are all animated by a common sentiment of dutiful allegiance to the honoured head of the Government of India. As the representative of our Sovereign we owe him the homage of our hearts. But we owe even him a higher homage­ the homage of truth-the obligation--the paramount obligation • A ( \ 26 -irupv,.,c;u upu .. ._.,., '-'; _ ;ery consideration of duty and sen­ timent alike, when we approach the footsteps of the viceregal throne to lay before• Hi,; Excellency the truth-the whole truth and nothing but the truth (Loud cheers.) The simple, plain, unvarnished, unalloyed truth compels us to say that His Excellency has made a deplorable blunder in the view he has taken-that his optimistic view of the situation may be fruitful of the most disastrous results. I am not going • to pit the opinion of any one, however high and distinguished he may be, against the authority of the Viceroy of India. The opnion of Lord Elgin must over-ride all conflicting views ; but I hold in my hand a statement for which I am indebted to the A mrita Ha:::ar Patrika which has done admirable service in this connection which tells its own eloquent tale upon the state of things as they prevail in the Central Provinces. From opinion then let us pass on to facts-and what is the testimony of facts ? I want your undivided attention for a moment as I go through this dreadful record of suffering and mortality. In January 1894 the death rate at Jubbalpore per thousand was 25·07-that is the normal rate. In September 1896 two years later what do you think was • the death-rate ? It was 97'38 four times the death rate of January I 894. That is as regards J ubbalpore. Let us travel onwards-let us come to Sangor. In Sangor the death rate was 48·69 per thousand in I 894. In September last what do you think was the death rate? 96·93. Just treble of what it was in 1894. In Damoh in September 1894 the rate was 44·40. In September 1896 what do you think was the mortality? I38'07 (Shame, Shame.) Shame is not the word. It is a matter of grave discredit that these deaths should take place, and yet any ruler with any sense of responsibility should congratulate himself upon the prosper- . ous condition of the country which reveals this frightful record. In Seoni the rate was 25'44 in August 1894, but in August 1896 the death rate was 88·r ; and now I come to the last .of the districts mentioned in that article of • ( 27 ) my friend to which I have referred. In Mandla the death rate was 36·56 in August 1894 and 140"30 in August last­ that is to say more than four times what it w~s in the same month in r894. I ask could there be a sadder or a more striking refutation of the optimistic view taken by His Excllcncy the Viceroy or a more complete vindication of the po.;ition taken up by the independent eyewitness to whom I have referred i I have yet more convincing proofs than what are furnished by the inexorable logic of figures. I have got before me a packet which was handed to me by my friends, the Editor of the A mrz"ta Ba::m· Patrika, just as I entered this room-a packet giving photographs of the emaciated, death-stricken figures starving in the poor houses of Jubbulpore. I dare not open this packet for your inspection. The very sight of these photographs would convince you of the gravity of the situation. (The speaker then handed some of the photographs to the delegates). That is the state of things in the Central Provinces. \Vhat has been the result of the optimistic view Wl1ich the Viceroy has taken in res-ard to the state of affairs in the Central Provinces and generally in regard to the whole question of famine ? The Secretary of State at the instance of the Government of India will not accept the offers of help which have been made by the I.-ord Mayor of London and also by the manufacturers of Lancashire, to whom the grateful ac­ knowledgments of the Congress and of the nation are due for this proferred help 'at this time of our sorest need (Loud cheers). People are dropping on the road-side, in the jungles, in their homes, in the poor houses, dying by hundreds and by thousands. The Government will not save them, nor will it accept the proffered hand of help that is out­ stretched to :iave them. Is it because ifthe English people found that their pockets were touched they would like to know the reason why ? T s it because if the English people had to pay, they would make enquiries-unpleasant en­ quiries-with regard to the condition of the people and • ( 2R the circumstances of the Government ? Is it because the English people would ask why in this Ci.JUntry more than in any other, these famines so frequently occurred ? Very unpleasant questions these ~1r. Chairman, and the local authorities would naturally be anxious that they should not be asked by the real masters of India. In Bengal we are also suffering from the pinch of famine. In Behar the scarcity is most severely felt, but there. the Government has got the help of the great territorial magnates, the foremost of whom is His Highness the Maharaja of Durbhanga, (three cheers for the Maharaja of Durbhanga.) I think I express the sense of this meeting when I say that we all rejoice that His Highness is better, and we all hope. that he may Ion::_; be spared to carry on his patriotic labours and set an example of patriotic duty to the aristocracy of Bengal. (Loud cheers.) Ladies and gentlemen, the situation in Bengal is somewhat complicated by another consideration. \Ve are suffering from scarcity of water. \Ve suffered from it last year and we are confronted with that calamity in an acuter form in the year to come. Of course the Government is prepared with a remedy. The Government is ready with a Bill which is the usual remedy in such cases. \Ve have a Bill in this connection, and what does that Bill provide ? A new tax ; but the pill is gilded for us. It is to be a per­ missive measure of taxation. Not only that, it is to be associated with a further expansion of the principle of local self-government. The power of taxation is to be entrusted to village unions-the primary centres oflocal self-government. Might I be permitted to ask the Government-I am full of gratitude to the Government for its sympathy with local self-government-whether it might not extend the principle in relation to the existin;; forms of taxation-and why it should be necessary to impose a new tax to initiate still further into the mysteries of local self-government? At any rate our countrymen have a legitimate grievance in this matter. They say-and the newspapers echo the sentiment-we pay the • ( 29 ) road cess, the road cess should be devoted to the purposes of tank-digging; why should we be burdened with another tax when the Government has frittered away the proceeds of the road cess ? Be that as it may, the Government of Sir Alexander Mackenzie is fully alive to the gravity of the situation. Relief works have been started at some places ; a complete system of relief organisation has also been sketched out. For aiL this we are grateful to the Government of Sir Alexander Mackenzie. You say in your Resolution that the provision of the Famine Cude are inadequate as regards wages and as regat:ds the relief afforded, and oppressive as regards the mectsure of the task-work exacted from the people. \Veil gentlemen some of you may have studied the Code. There is a remarkable provision in that Code. A full time labourer, working with his system reduced by starvation, is to get how much do you think ? Six pice, not even two annas. He may get another piece if the Commissioner of the Division should so recommend it. (Shame) I really think it is a matter of shame. What do our prisoners get ? I was in prison myself on one occasion, and I know something about it, although I confess I was not subjected to prison diet. (Loud laughter.) My personal experience will not indeed help me, but as a visitor of the most important prison in this Province I kno\1· something about prison diet. The prisoner's diet would come up to about two annas per day ; the famine stricken-labourer gets only six pice. If I had to make a choice I would go and I steal and get myself locked in prison in order that I might get more food than what is available at the relief vvorks and I must say that the Govern­ ment offers by such a provision as this a powerful incentive to the commission of crime. That of course is a matter with whir:h the Local Government cannot deal : that is a matter in regard to \\·hich thi.;; Congress may express its opinion but it is only the Government of India which can apply the reme­ dy. However that may be, there can be no doubt that .. 30 ) the triumphs of famine organization are to be found in the ~- W. P. and I think I express the sense of this Congress when I say that our most gntteful acknowledgments are due to Sir Antony MacDonnell for his sympathetic policy in re­ lation to the famine (Loud cheers.) The blessings oi Heaven will descend•upon a ruler who has been instrumental in saving the lives of his subjects. (Loud cheers.) It is to be hoped that other local Governments will imitate the • example set by Sir Antony MacDonnell, and I may be permitted also to express a further hope that the Government of India may have its viewJ largely !evened by the beneficent policy of the Lieutenant Governor of the North Western Provinces (cheers.) Sir you express in this resolution your great concern at the outbreak of famine. Well Sir, a great authority, no less a personage than the Chief Commissioner of the Central Provinces, has told us that famines are visitations of l'roviJence-they are the judgments of the Almighty. That indeed is mere truism ; it is a safe pronouncement to make ; it does not exhibit much wisdom on the part of the individual who makes it, nor does he incur the risk of !using the reputation for wisdom if he ever posse3sed any. (Laughter.) But I think we might ask the Chief Commissioner to climb down a little from the region of mysticism to the re,;;ion of pure knowledge ; we might ask him to descend from those ethereal heights where we move under the urrcertain inspiration of faith to mundane concerns where reason is our guide, and we might be per­ mitted to ask him the question why in India more than in any other country famines occur,these visitations of Providence take place ? Is it because the sins of our people have so accumulated, that they appeal trumpet-tongued to the Almighty for vengeance, or is it. because the blunders of our rulers have become so great and so pressing, that the Divine mandate v.:orking through the sure and unerring processes of nature visits us with these punishments? I know· not what may be the solution of this mystery, but this I do affirm on • 31 ) your behalf that we ascribe this famine and similar famines to the great and deplorable poverty of our people, a poverty accentuated by over:.taxation• and over-assessment, and brought on by the extravagance of one of the most reckless governments that the world has ever seen. I will not enter into the question of Indian poverty, I went into it very fully last year. You know perfectly well that fully 40 millions of ,our people live upon .one meal a day ; you know also that we have to pay an exorbitant rate of taxatir:m upon our ~mall incomes, the Indian tax-payer paying a tax of eight per' cent upon an average income per head of 27 Rs. a year while the English tax-payer pays a tax of 7 per cent upon an average income per head of £33 a year. I find it has been denied that the position of the peasant~y has distinctly deteriorated under British rule. It is said that the wages of labour have risen enormously, and that this rise represents a corresponding mea­ sure of increase in the happiness of the people. I dispute this proposition altogether. My contention is that notwithstanding the abnormal rise in the wages of labour, the condition of the labourer at the present moment is much wor~e than it was in the time of Akbar, and I am prepared with facts and figures to support the view which I hold. The facts which I am about to lay before you are taken from Mr. P. N. Bose's admirable work on Hindu Civilisation. The following table gives the wages of some labourers during the reign of Akbar :- Rs. A. P. Carpenters 0 2 9 3/5 to 0 0 9 3/5 Bricklayers 0 4 4/5 to 0 I 2 2/5 Bam boo-cutters 0 0 9 3/5 Thatchers 0 2 2/5 Water-carriers o 2 2(5 to o o 9 315 The following are the average prices of some of the commonest articles of consumption during the same reign :­ Rs. A. P. Wheat per maund . . . o 4 9 3/5 • ( 32 per mauttd Rs. A. P. Lentils " 0 4 9 3, 5 Barley " 0 3 2 2 5 Millet , 0 2 4 4 5 Sathi rice " 0 8 0 Zirhi rice , 0 0 Moth Dal , 0 4 9 3 5 Wheat flour (coarse) , •... 0 6 0 Mung Dal , 0 7 2 2 5 Ghee , 2 10 0 Oil " 2 0 0 Milk , 0 10 0 Brown Sugar , I (j 4 Salt , 0 6 4 4/5 Onions " 0 2 4 4'• I) Turmeric " 0 4 0 Stlahati cloth, per yard " 0 I 7 1/5 Blankets, coarse per piece , o 4 o The monthly dietetic requirements of a flour eating average adult labourer would be:::..__ Flour Dal Ghee Salt Seers. 25 5 Total. .. Rs. A. P. 0 3 9 0 0 7 I/2 0 0 I/5 0 0 2 4/5 0 5 7 4/5 Upon this table Mr. Bose makes the following pertinent observations :- " Making allowance for condiments and other little thin~s an adult labourer could live comfortably during the reign of Akbar on six annas per month. Taking his family to consist of five members (himself, his wife, and three children,) he alone being the earning member, we may take one rupee and four annas to cm-er his monthly expenses on account of food' for the whole family. An average unskilled labourer, like a wate,.r-carrier, in Akbar's time would earn one rupee and ( 33 ) fourteen annas per month. Thus he would have left a margin of ten annas to spend on clothing and luxuries,---a large amount considering the purchlsing power of the rupee at the time." ::'IJ ow I put it to you, gentlemen, is it possible for an ordinary labourer in this nineteenth century under the pro­ tection of British rule and enjoying the blessings of British administration-is it. possible for him to lay by even ten annas of the present currency as a reserve against bad times ? And yet the British Government plumes itself upon being the champion of the interests of the toiling masses of India and \vill not allow us to represent them or say one word on their behalf. What becomes of this boasted vaunt by the light of the facts I hav:e read to you? This poverty was inevitable, for we know that our industries have all been extinguished. \Ve are told sometimes by sympathising friends in a somewhat patronising way that ours is an agricultural country. I should like to ask our friends this question.-Did the English and the French, the Dutch and the Portuguese come here in the last century for our raw produce, or for our manufactured goods­ our silks, our muslins, our shawls, our brass utensils ? What has become of them? Vanished into the inane-they have disappeared into thin air. England has done great things for India,· England has conferred upon us inestimable blessing for which we are truly grateful ; but England is directly respoi1sible for the collapse of our industries ; England has made us industrially helpless. (cheers.) Ours rulers profess to be free traders. It is free trade when it suits their interes"ts. It is protection when it benefits them. You know we export large quantities of our gold and silver manufactured articles to England. They levy a heavy duty upon the importation of those articles into England. Is this free trade? I think not. But when England exports the self-same articles into India no im pc>rt duties .are levied u pDn them ! I am myself a free· trader. The Liberal party I believe are wedded· to the principles of f1'ee trade. There never was a greater advocate • 34 of the doctrines uf free trade than John Stuart Mill, and what d:>es he say with reference to the development of the nascent inJustries of a 'country? He.lays down the principles that . the infant industries of a country must be safe6uarded by protective duties. Of course you pay a great deal for the time being but the prosperity and material wealth which follow in the train of industries thus fostered and developed will more than compensate for the tempiOlrary loss you might thus incur. If India was a self-governing country I have not the slightest doubt that we should have imposed heavy duties for the protection of our nascent industries. Gentlemen, I do not know that I should be justified in taking up more of your time. You say in this resolution­ and I re-echo your sentiment,.;-that the Go.vcrnment should husband the resource,.; of the country. Economy and retrenchment haYe been the watch-wards of the Congress ; but hitherto ours has been a voice crying in the wilderness. It is now to be hoped-thanks to the labours of the Royal Commission--that economy will form a prominent feature of the administrations. I desire to remind the Government, in the presence of this great famine, of its supreme duty to husband the resources of the country. It is a serious obli­ gation imposed upon the Govemment-an obligation rendered paramount by the consideration that these famines are' due to the policy of extravagance fullowed by the Government in the past. ::\ o Government not even the strongest or the most omnipotent can for any length of time defy or break with impunity the moral and economic laws that govern human affairs. Injustice never wanders far, but comes home to the perpetrators thereof. But I must say I have great confidence in the Government of India ; in its wisdom and in its sense of justice. The Government s slow to move, but when it does move, it moves along the lines of beneficence and progress. You know the difficulties of the Irish problem ; you know how those difficulties arose. The words "to late" are written upon every line of England's policy in relation_to • ( 35 ) Ireland. Let not those words be inscribed on the portals of Government House in Calcutta. These famines are the reminders of nature to warn go~ernments to mend their ways. If they do not mend direful must be the consequence. Bankruptcy, financial ruin, irretrievable collapse and ali their attendant evil must follow. \Ve in the Congress are the unofficial advisers of the Government. \Ve appeal to Govern­ ment to protect our it:dustries; husband our resources so that these famines may become matters of the past and a new era of plenty and prosperity may dawn upon this land. A Gov­ ernment which helps to produce a consumation so de,·outly to be wished for will be entitled to the blessin;:;s of God and the gratitude of a nation (Loud and prolonged cheering.) BABU SURE~DRA~ATH BA~ERJEA'S REPLY TO MR. JACOB'S STATEMENT. THE PUBLIC SERVICES I desire to submit the following observations in connec~ tion with that part of Mr. Jacob's statement' dated the 21st July (1907) which affects the Services:- 1 note that Mr. Jacob does not call in question the facts. and fi~ures which the other Indian witnesses and myse}f have adduced. His contention is that much has been clone within the last 20 years, and more will be done within the next few years. Our contention is that although ten years have elapsed since the Public Service Commission have made their report, yet in several important departments, such as the Public \Yorks, the Forest, the Telegraph, the l)ost Office, the Survey, the Customs, the Opiurp, and the Polic;e very little progress has been made towards giving effect to the recommendations of the Commission, and no serious effort has been made in that direction. \Vith :VIr. Jacob's criticisms. as affecting each of these deiJarttnwts, l will deal in detail under their respective head8. .But when he refers to the • statement which I made, and from which I do not withdraw, viz, that we regard the Indian Government as a progressive Government, but that we d~ not consider the progress made as adequate to meet the requirements of the country, it is only right anci proper that I should point out that the statement is to be taken only in a general sense, and applicable to each department ; for there are departments in which instead of progress there has been retrogression a.s regards the employ­ ment of the people of the country in the highest offices. Take for instance the :vledical Department, in regard to which Mr. Jacob is discreetly silent. In this department, within the last twenty years our countrymen have lost ground. I will reproduce here an extract from my evidence which entirely bears out this view of the matter and which has been challenged by Mr. Jacob :- In 1877 there were 67 commissioned medical officers of whom 5 were Indians. There were in addition to the above, 28 uncovenanted medical officers. Of these 7 were apothecaries (all Europeans) and 3 were Indians. In 1887 there were 62 commisioned medical of-ficers, of whom only 6 were Indians. There were 29 uncovenanted medical officers of whom only 4 were natives of India, the other 25 were Europeans and Eurasians (I 3 apothecaries and 12 non-military medical-men). There were 142 Assistant .Surgeons. In 1897 there were 66 comp1issioned medical officers of whom only 4 were Indians. Thus practically the number of commissioned officers on the Bengal establishment who were natives of India remained stationary for a period extending over 20 years from 1877 to 1897. In fact the number in 1897 was slightly less. In 1897 there were 36 unconvenanted civil medical officers, of whom only 4 were Indians, the rest were Europeans and Eurasians, 25 were apothecaries and 7 non­ military Europeans. *"' * It will thus be seen that while the number of apothecaries holding the higher appointments has increased by over 300 per cent, the number of natives of India employed has actually decreas·~d . • ( 37 ) It is also worthy of note that :VIr. Jacob has nothing to say with regard to the Customs Department, although it so happens that with one exccptior1 the superior appointments 111 the Customs Department in Calcutta are filled by Europeans, and it is a department for which according to the testimony of Sir Charles Trevelyan, natives of India are specially qualified. THE PUBLIC ~ERVICE COMMISSION REPORT. As I have said our complaint is that in regard to several of the great departments of the State little or nothing has been done towards giving effect to the recommendations of the Public ·Service Commission. Mr. Jacob's explanation is that we have to wait for vacancies occurring. I cannot admit that this is a full explanation. Vacancies have occurred in the office of Under-Secretary to the Government in Bengal more than once; yet not a single native of India has ever been appointed Under-Secretary to Government, although in Sir Eshley Eden's time (r8n-r882) a Beng'ali gentleman (Babu Rajendranath Mitter) acted with credit as Assistant Secretary to Government. Vacancies have more than once occurred in the office of Accountant-General of Bengal, yet not a single native of India has been appointed Acc.)unt­ General, although there are several natives of India who have acted with credit as .Deputy Comptrollers General and Deputy Accountants-General. Both these are appointments ro which natives of lnc·ia under the recommendations of the Public Service Commission are eligible. A reduction in the number of new recruits every year would tend to the more speedy carrying out ·of the proposals of the Public Service Commission. I may here notice that in Bengal, with one exception (that of :\ir. U. C. Batabyal) not a single member of the Provincial Service has been appointed under the recommendations of the Public Service Commission to any office hitherto reserved for members of the Covenanted Service, and even l\1r. Batabyal is not really a member of the Provincial Service. He ·was a member of the Statutory • Service, but elected to belong tu the Pruvincial Service. I m::>re tha11 once called attention to this matter in Council, and I was told in reply that the prior claims of the Statutory Service must first be satisfied, before the claims of the Provincial Service can be dealt with. In the North-Western Prov,inces however, where they had a Statutory Service similar to what we had in Bengal, several members of the Provincial Service hold appointments hitherto reserved for the Civil Service. \Vhy the members of the Provincial Service in Ben.;al should be placed in a worse position is wha,t I cannot understand. And here I must refer to an inaccuracy in Mr. Jacob's statement of a sufficiently important character to call for notice. At page 23 in commenting upon his table, Mr. Jacob's remarks:-'' Besides the appoinments shown above are actually listed fo~ the Provincial Service, members of that Service are eligible for higher posts such as High Court Judgeships, Commissionerships and those of members of the Board of Revenue." Membership of the Board of Revenue is one of the highest executive ap­ pointments under the Government. It is only next in importanc~ to a Lieutenant-Governorship, carrying a higher .salary than that of a High C,mrt Judge. \In Bengal the salary is so,ooo Rs. a year.) Now it is not the case, as stated by Mr. Jacob, that a membership of the Board of Revenue is one of the offices to which a member of the Provincial Service is eligible. The Public Service Commission indeed made the recommendation but the Government of India declined to accept this part of the recommendation of the Commission, and Sir A.ndrew Scobie, a member of the Commission, was a member of that ·Government. I quote from pargraph 13 of the despatch of the Government of India (No 58 of 1888 dated Simla the gth October r888): " In the first place we are of opinion that it . is not advisable to execlude from the schedule one member of the Board of Revenue in Madras, Bengal, and the .:\. \V. Pro­ vinces and Oudh, and the Financial Commissioner of the • 39 ) Punjab. From our views upon this point our · Hon'ble colleague Sir Charles Aitchison de,;ires to dissent, for the reasons given on page 74 of the keport." "THE BULK OF THE EXECUTIVE AND JUDICIAL DEPARTMENTS MUST BE ENGLISHMEi-i." Mr. Jacob labours, as it seems to me, under a more serious misapprehension when he says that the Public Service Commission laid great stres:.; l!pon the fact that "the bulk of the Executive and Judicial Departments must be Englishmen " trained in English principles. This is certainly not the recommendation of the Public Service Commission. The gist of their recommendations may be summarized as follows: That indigenous agency should be more largely employed in the public service, that the recoupment of the official st;:,ff in England should be curtailed and advantage taken of qualified agency obtainable in India. In other words, the Provincial Service recruited in India should be the backbone of the administrative agency, subject to European supervision and control. "Considerations of policy and economy alike require," observed the Commission in their Report," "that so far as is consistent with the ends of good Government, the recruitment of the official staff in England should be curtailed and advantage taken of qualified agency obtainable in India." Again when discussing their proposals regarding the formation of an Imperial Service, the Commission observe:­ "Under this arrangement the Covenanted Civil Service reduced to a corps d'eiite and its members limited to what is necessary to fill the chief adminstrative appointments of the Government and such a number of smaller appointments as will ensure a complete course of training for junior civilians, will continue as hitherto to be recruited by open competition in England only " &c. (page 68 of the Public Service Commission Report). Thus so far from lying stress upon the fact that ''the bulk of the Executive and Judicial Departments must be Englishmen," the Public Service Commission recommend .. the limiting of the recruitment in En;;land to such a strength as is required to fill the highest and even the upper ranks of the service," so that "an opportunity of advancement to places of trust and responsi­ bility is afforded to those whose scruples debar them from competition in England") page 50, Public Service Commission Report). The Commission did not indeed recommend that the bulk_ of Executive and Judicial appointments should be held by Englishmen. Their recommendations involved the reservation of about one-sixth of the appointments hitherto held exclusively by members of the Civil Service for the Pro\·incial Service ; and my contention is that in the executive and judicial departments, the ruling de?artments as ;\-fr. Jacob puts it, their recommendations have only been partially carried out, and in the special departments to which I shall presently refer, they have been, if not totally ignored, even less partially given effect to. THE SPECIAL DEPARTMENTS. And yet in connection with these Special Departments Mr. Jacob observes in his evidence:-" Of course in other Departments which are not concerned with the Government of the country you may say such as the Public \Vqrks Department and the Accounts Department and others, a very much larger proportion of natives can be employed even in the higher grades and will be so employed." As a matter of fact they are not so employed. As a matter of fact the exclusion of natives of India from the higher offices in the special departments (as I have already shown from the figures I have quoted in my evidence) is even more complete. The House of Commons in their Resolution of the znd June r893 laid down:-" That all open competitive examinations heretofore held in England alone for appoint­ ments to the Civil Services of India shall henceforth be held simultaneously both in India and England, such examinations in .both countries being identical in their nature and all who ( 41 compete being finally classed in one list according to merit.'' It will thus be seen that the House of Commons by the above Resolution affirmed the •principle of holding simult­ aneous examinations, not only with regard to the Indian Civil Service, but with regard to all Civil Services. The Examinations for the higher offices in the Forest service, the Telegraph service, the Public \Vorks Department, the Police Department are now held in England and in England alone. Whatever political reasons there may exist for not holding simultaneous examiqations for the Indian Civil Service (and Indian public opinion firmly holds that no such reasons exist) it cannot be urged with the shadow of a reason that there are any political grounds for not holding simult­ aneous examinations for recruitment to the higher offices in the special departments. It will be seen on a reference to the "Blue-book presented to both Houses of Parliament in 1894, containing papers relating to the question of holding simultaneous examinations in India and England" that these despatches deal exclusively with the question ofholding simultaneous examinations for the Indian Civil Service, and that not a single Local Government nor even the. Supreme Government recorded any opinion adverse to the proposal for holding simultaneous examinations for the minor Civil Services. There is no official opinion on record against it. There is the Resolution of the House of Commons in favour of it. There are no political considerations against it. Mr. Jacob, the mouth-piece of the Government, himself says that natives of India can and will be largely employed in these de­ partments. Under the circumstances I would respectfully press the view which I have ventured to put forward in favour of. holding simultaneous examinations in India and England for recruitment to the Special Departments, for the favourable consideration of the .Commission. There can be no practical difficulty in the way of holding such examinations. For the London University till recently held its examinations in Calcutta, Bombay and other centres. In his Budget speech 6 • Lord George Hamilton referred to the nece~sity of encourag­ ing technical eduction in India, as a means of developing the wealth of the country an~ of ameliorating the poverty of the masses. I have no hesitation in saying that the holding of examinations in India for the selection of probationers for the special departments which require technical knowledge will give a great impetus to technical education in India. The colleges will then make arrangements for these examinations. The youth of the country will be drawn by the prospect of high office towards the study of those technical sciences necessary for these examinations. I now pass on to consider :\1r. Jacob's observations under each ~pecial department. Orn.::\r DEr.\RntENT It would seem from ;\'lr. Jacob's statement that the Government of India has delined to accept the recommenda­ tion of the Public Service Commission in favour of the adoption of" the principle of equality of treatment of all classes of Her Majesty's subjects in regard to their appoint­ ment to offices in this department," the reason assigned being that natives ha\'C so recently been introduced into the higher appointments in the Opium Department that it is not deemed advisable at present to increase their employment. Natives of India haYe been employed in the higher appointments in this Department since r886. Thus for more than ten years their fitness has been tried, and surely the Government ought to be in a position to say whether they are qualified or not for the higher offices in this department. But surely if natives of India have been found qualified for some of the highest executive and judicial offices (such as those of District Magistrate, High Court Judge) it would be almost too absurd to hold that they cannot be trusted to discharge with ability the duties of in the Opium Department. me1~dation of the Public • some of the higher appointments After all, what does th'e recom­ Service Commissioner come up ( 43 to? Equality of tre:1tm':':nt am~ng all classes of Her Ma­ jesty's subjects is what they advocate. In other words, natives of India shall be placea on the same footing with Europeans and Eurasians if they have the requisite qualifica­ tions-that their race shall be no bar to their employment in the higher offices in the Opium Department. Let the Govem­ ment of India fix the qualifications, intellectual, moral and physical,and let all be equally allowed to compete, irrespective of race. That is obviously the sense of the Public Service Com­ mission recommendation, but apparently the Government of India would keep up the present state of things, make race a disqualification,and would on no account allow more than one out· of the four yearly recruits to be a native of India. The Government of India would find it very difficult to justify this policy before public opinion. In this Department alone, the recommendations of the Public Service Commission have been bodily rejected by the Government of India, for reasons with which the .public are unacquainted. FOREST SERVICE Ten years ago the Public Service Commission recom­ mended the formation of a Provincial Service in connection with the Forest Department-the Imperial branch of the Forest Service being in the words of the Public Service Commission "limited to the number of officers necessary to fill the superior controlling appointments and such proportion of the Assistant Conservators' posts as will ensure a complete training of the junior officers" It will thus be seen that the Provincial Service was to be the back-bone of forest admi­ nistratio':l. Ten years have now elapsed, and yet the Provin­ cial Branch which is to play such an important part in the arrangements for the wi?er employment of the children of the soil in the forest Department has not yet been formed. The Indian public have a right to complain that it has not yet been formed ; but so it is with regard to most schemes for the wider employment of the people in the hi6her offices of state . • 44 \Ve do not know when this Provincial branch of the Forest Service will be formed. We have waited ten years, and we do not know how long we •will have to wait. All this is in corroboration of my remark that the Goverment of India ought to move much faster than it does. If I may be per­ mitted to say so without disrespect, I will venture to add that Mr. Jacob's remarks under this and other heads of the Public Services are made not so much in respect of things as they are, but in respect of things as they will be. They are undertakings given on behalf of the Government. I am bound to say that we have had painful experience of these promises in the past. The Duke of Argyle speaking as Secretary of State observed:-'' We have not kept on promises to the people of India. " Lord Lytton speaking as Vicery of India observed:-" The promises of the Queen (as contained in the Proclamation) remain inadequately redeem­ ed." The Indian public can only hope that Mr. Jacob's promises made on behalf of the Government will be more speedily realized. POSTAL DEPARTMENT In regard to the Postal Department, Mr. Jacob's obser­ vations apply to what will happen eventually. The gist of my contention is not assailed, viz, that notwithstanding the orders ot the Government of India of 1879 and the distinct finding of the Public Service Commission that " in this Department opportunities have been afforded to natives to· sh,ow their fitness for superior offices and for posts of the highest responsibility "-the bulk of the higher appointments in the Department are still held by Europeans. I need not repeat the figures which I have already given and which entirely bear out my position. POLICE In the Indian Civil Service somewhat less than one-sixth or 16 per cent. of the appointments are held by natives of India. In the Police in Bengal less than • ( 45 7 per cent. of the superior appointments are held by natives; and the Civil Service governs the country. The District Ma­ gistrate who is a member of th~ Civil Service, governs the country; the District ::viagistrate who is a member of the Civil Service controls the District Superintendent, the official head of the Di'strict Police. Mr. Jacob admits the irri­ tating and. invidious distinction to which I called at­ tention in my evidence, viz, that from the competitive examinations held in London for recruitment to the high- . er offices in the Police, natives of India are excluded, for no other reason than because they are natives. Their race ( constitutes their disability, contrary to the clear and distinct pledges contained in the Queen's Proclamation, which laid down that merit and not race was to be the sole test of qualification. Mr. Jacob says that the Local Governments are free to promote native Inspectors to the higher ranks in the Police service. I protested against one system of appointing old and worn-out Inspectors as District Superin­ tendents of Police. I desire respectfully to renew my protest. The circumstance has a bearing upon the advancement of natives of India in the Police service which is not to be over~ looked. Under the 55 years' rule, every unconvenated servant o£ Government must retire ·from service at the age of 55, unless•extension is giv6n to him. Such extension is ordinarily given for once, and seldom exceeds five years. The result of these old men being promoted to the office of District Superintendent is that they never rise to the higher grades. The system has thus contributed to keep the native District Superintendents in the lower grades. Promoted for the most part by seniority, there has not been a single native of India who has ever been a first grade District Superintendent of Police in Bengal. The present system of recruitment therefore distinctly interferes with the advance­ ment of natives of India to the higher grades in the Police department. • \ ) THE EDVCATIOX DEPARnlENT I desire in the first instance to correct a mistake of fact in Mr. Jacob's statement: Mr. Jacob says that under the scheme now introduced the local rec